A Value Manager in a Growth Market

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What is a ‘Value Manager’ doing in India? – In our more than 30 years of existence as a firm and more than 20 years of directly managing India dedicated public equities for clients, we have been asked this question several times.


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It of course stems from the fact that India is a ‘Growth’ market and hence ‘Growth’ style of investing should be better suited for market returns.

It also construes from a mis-understanding about ‘Value investing’. As we show in this piece, ‘Value cannot survive without Growth’. The best periods of returns from following Value investing comes during periods of broadbased growth driven by investments and reasonable inflation. In these periods, Value tends to outperform growth and other styles of investing.

India has that broad-based, investment driven growth and it is of no surprise to us that over long-term time cycles, Value investing does extremely well in India.

Chart 1: Value does well in India

Source: Quantum Advisors, Refinitiv Datastream, MSCI Indices, in USD rebased to 100 on 31-Dec-2000 Data till June 30, 2022. Past performance is not an indicator of future returns. Please refer important disclosures and disclaimers

‘Value lies in the eyes of the Beholder'

There is no easy definition of what construes as ‘Value investing’. Indices when they construct a Value index, use certain relative parameters. They bracket stocks with for e.g. low price to earnings, low price to book value, high dividend yield as measures of Value style and create the Value index.

Value investors following the Graham & Dodd ‘screener’ would use a combination of relative value (with other stocks as well as other asset classes), financial metrics (growth, leverage, return ratios) to identify stocks trading at discount to fair value with the hope that the valuation will ‘mean-revert’ to fair value.

Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger, the legendary Value investors, will use a long-term normalised earnings for an operating company, the business of which they understand and they can remain invested for a long-time.

There are other investors who use what is called ‘contrarian’ investing. Again, the bet is ‘mean-reversion’ and thus buying when others are fearful or during periods of negative sentiment. We have also seen ‘activist’ investing looking at companies with depressed valuation either due to management or business cycles or capital structure. A good part of ‘distressed asset investing also imbibes measures of value investing.

As you can see, there are many definitions and styles of investing to which Value investing can be ascribed.

Value = Discount to Fair Value + A Catalyst

Tom Hansberger, the founding member of the investment firm, what was then knows as Templeton, Galbraith and Hansberger’, a legendary Value investor taught us the difference between a ‘Value stock’ and a ‘cheap stock’. He told us that a cheap stock can remain cheap. A Value stock is one which is cheap but has a catalyst, a trigger which can lead to an improvement in earnings and valuations.

This aspect of stock returns driven by a catalyst and/or mean reversion has its pros and cons. Because, you are buying at a discounted price, the investor always has margin of safety. If the thesis/catalyst plays out, the investor can make superior returns.

The flip side is that things don’t go as planned and the investor can suffer periods of poor performance. For instance, weak growth cycle can delay the impact of the catalyst. It can at times take longer than expected wherein there might be a time mismatch in terms of the manager and the client. The value stock may be a ‘value trap’ which was not identified. Investing behavior and investing cycles undergo changes which may also impact on the flow of funds into these value stocks/sector.

We saw in the years post the Lehman financial crisis till COVID, where in, global growth was anemic, interest rates were held very low and monetary policy dominated over fiscal policy. Such a period, saw a global underperformance of Value style or Value factor over all the other popular factor investing styles like Growth, Momentum and Quality.

Chart 2: Value underperformed when monetary policy was active over fiscal policy

Source: Refinitiv Datastream, Central Bank Total Assets and MSCI Indices in USD rebased to 100 at the start of 2008,. Data till June 30, 2022

This was a global phenomenon. The debt build up due to the great financial crisis of 2008, the US credit downgrade in august 2011 and the sovereign debt crisis in the Eurozone (2011/2012) meant that the developed world had to move to fiscal austerity. Monetary policy took over the mantle of reviving growth. It did so by keeping interest rates low and by infusing liquidity in the markets. Despite, all the efforts including the use of deeply negative interest rates in parts of the world, growth did not revive as expected and inflation remained muted. Investment cycle remained anemic which showed up in lower demand for hard commodities as well.

At around the same time, the global technology sector, especially with the oncoming of new age platform and market place companies, gained traction as a theme in investing portfolios. Value investors have generally found it difficult to allocate to themes which requires them to ascribe value to ‘intangible growth assets’. We believe these pointers above explain to a reasonable degree on the general under-performance of Value over Growth as shown in the Panel 2 of charts 2 and 3.

Chart 3: Value Investing needs a period of reasonable growth and inflation

We saw this play out in India as well. Even India went through a phase of low growth and low inflation. We found that during this period, stocks which could pose even a slightly higher growth than its peers, the ‘Growth’ or ‘Quality’ investors were willing to ascribe a far higher valuation for that incremental growth. At the same traditional value stocks/segments, suffered both in terms of incremental growth momentum and a sharp de-rating of its historical valuation.

However, as chart 1 suggests, in India, over the long-term ‘Value’ investing does well and much better than ‘Growth’ style of investing.

We lay down three broad reasons for the same:

  1. Sentiment towards India goes through periods of optimism and pessimism,

  2. Growth cycles naturally allow for mean-reversion of earnings and/or valuations.

  3. India is in a steady long-term growth cycle which continues to broadbase and diversify the opportunity set for investors.

Chart 4: Growth cycle and investor sentiment allows for natural mean reversion of earnings and valuation

Source: Bloomberg Finance L.P , EPS and P/E for BSE-30 Sensex Index, trailing 12month data

A Value manager, with a long time horizon and an investment approach which assumes normalized earnings potential is better placed. If they are disciplined, they can ignore a stock re-rating due to flows or short term earnings momentum. At the same time, they can take advantage of a stock de-rating based on near term earnings disappointment or negative price sentiment towards the stock and sector.

As the chart above suggests, this happens regularly in India. Also, India’s overall trajectory of 6.0%-6.5% real GDP growth has disappointed many investors and companies who committed money with an assumption of 9%-10% GDP growth.

A Value manager cognizant of a normalized trend and investing with a margin of safety seems better placed to deal with the volatility in expectations, sentiment and reality.

This does not take away from the fact that ‘Value style’ can have some brutal years. 2017-2021 was one such period, where Value underperformed not only in India but also globally. Investors who back value managers need a longer time horizon and/or should balance the allocation with managers following other styles of investing.

We are confident in our process. We see signs of a broad-based fiscal, investment and credit led recovery. We are seeing lower polarizations in the stock indices with broad-based participation. All signs that tell us that Value investing should continue to do well.


Arvind Chari – Arvind@Qasl.com

Arvind Chari is the Chief Investment Officer (CIO) at Quantum Advisors. Arvind’s vast experience in managing money for global investors and his interactions with leading institutions has exposed him to a world of knowledge. With over 18 years of experience in tracking domestic and global economy he is Quantum’s thought leader and is the author of this Q-India Insight edition.

Important Disclosures & Disclaimers:

  1. Q India Value Equity Composite (Composite) is an aggregation of Client portfolios with a similar investment mandate and with no cash restrictions that are managed or advised by Quantum Advisors on a discretionary basis using the long only value equity strategy. The Composite does not include all client portfolios due to various client-imposed portfolio restrictions, even though all portfolios in this broad mandate are managed using the same strategy.

  2. The various constituents of the Composite pay different management fees. The net-of-fee and expense returns of the Q India Value Equity Composite indicated in this presentation reflect the weighted average management fees paid to Quantum Advisors Pvt Ltd (QAPL) by the different constituents of the Composite. The Composite represents 0.03% of the total AUM under the Q India Value Equity Strategy as on June, 2022.

  3. As the different constituents of the Composite are subject to different management fee structures, the actual performance experienced by a constituent of the Composite may be worse or better than the net-of-fee-and-expense returns of the Composite.

  4. The return shown in the graph are calculated using Time Weighted Rate of Return (“TWRR”) method.

  5. The returns for CY 2011 to CY 2015 do not capture the impact of management fees paid by constituents of the Composite who pay such fees to QAPL from outside their portfolio accounts. From January 2016 onwards, the performance returns of the Composite is calculated net of management fees payable to QAPL whether the management fees are paid by the constituents from within or outside their portfolio account.

  6. Till December 2015, performance returns of certain constituents of the Composite were computed on a pre-tax basis while the returns of remaining constituents were computed on a post-tax basis. For the months of January and February 2016 the returns of all the constituents were computed on a post-tax basis, where tax was paid out of the Client’s portfolio account. Effective March 2016, in order to bring the performance calculation practice in line with market practice, all return numbers have been computed on a pre-tax basis.

  7. The returns for CY 2006 to CY 2015 have been computed after adjusting the management fees received by QAPL from the constituents’ portfolio accounts on a receipt basis – generally at calendar quarter intervals and have not been calculated on an accrual basis. Starting January 2016, the performance returns are calculated net of management fees payable to QAPL and are being accrued on a monthly basis.

  8. Till December 2015, the capital gain taxes (if any) paid by some of the constituents of the Composite were not considered while reporting performance numbers. Starting January 2016, the performance returns are being calculated after reducing capital gain taxes (if any) paid by all constituents of the Composite, for which payment of capital gain taxes are made from their respective portfolio account.

  9. The firm has formulated an internal policy and procedures on inclusion, exclusion of the portfolio accounts and factoring significant cash flows for computing the performance of Composite which will be available upon request.

  10. As of 1 January 2008, the benchmark for the Composite strategy was changed from the BSE 30 to the BSE 200. Since the investment universe is the companies constituting the BSE 200 Index or any appropriate additions made to it, the firm believes that the BSE 200 is a more appropriate benchmark and reflects a realistic comparison with portfolio performance. Hence, we believe that BSE 200 is more representative of the investment strategy since it includes most of the stocks in which the portfolio may invest.

  11. Given that the BSE 200 comprises large cap stocks which are highly liquid, we believe it makes a good benchmark as the Composite’s portfolio has a bias towards highly liquid stocks. However, the Composite’s performance may not be strictly comparable with the performance of the Benchmark, due to inherent differences in the construction of the portfolios, and the volatility of the benchmark over any period may be materially different than that of the composite over the same period.

  12. The firm sources benchmark-related data from Bloomberg. When the benchmark was changed on 1 January 2008, the Total Return Index values for S&P BSE 200 were not available on Bloomberg. Subsequently, Bloomberg began publishing index values for the S&P BSE 200 Total Return Index in February 2014. As the Total Return values are available now, the firm believes it to be the best practice to report the total return of the benchmark instead of the price returns.

  13. Data of other indices is provided for information purposes only and to allow investors to compare the performance of the Composite to that of certain indices (many of which are well known and widely recognized). While we generally believe these comparisons provide meaningful and useful information to investors (for example, as a way of comparing an investment in the Composite to other types of investments that investors might make), inclusion of any particular index is not a representation that the index is an appropriate benchmark for evaluating the Composite’s performance. In particular, the volatility of indices over any period may be materially different from that of the Composite over that same period.

  14. All INR to USD conversion has been done based on RBI FX Rates till May 2010, and WM Reuters Closing Spot Rates (4pm UK time) from June 2010 onwards. Average monthly cash level figures consist of month-end averages.

Annexure 1

Performance of the Q India Value Equity Composite computed as per methodology prescribed under SEBI guidelines

* As of 1 January 2008, the firm changed the benchmark for the Q India Value Equity Composite from the S&P BSE 30 to the S&P BSE 200. When the benchmark was changed on that date, the Total Return Index values for the S&P BSE 200 were not available on Bloomberg (the firm’s data source). Subsequently, Bloomberg began publishing index values for the S&P BSE 200 Total Return Index in February 2014. As the Total Return Index values are available now, the firm believes it to be the best practice to report the total return of the benchmark instead of the price returns. The benchmark returns for the “Since Inception” period consists of the returns of the BSE 30 Total Return Index from inception through December 2007 linked geometrically with the returns of the S&P BSE 200 Total Return Index from January 2008 till date.

Disclosure Statements:

Composite inception date is taken as the date on which the Portfolio Account is funded by the Client and accrual of Management fees commences.

Brief note on performance computation methodology under SEBI guidelines:

SEBI amended the regulatory framework for Portfolio Managers by notifying SEBI (Portfolio Managers) Regulations, 2020 and further issuing a circular no. SEBI/HO/IMD/DF1/CIR/P/2020/26 dated February 13, 2020, which came into force from October 01, 2020. Under these, SEBI has prescribed specific guidelines on computation and disclosure of performance by portfolio managers to their clients and in marketing materials. A summary of these guidelines is given below.

The performance of a discretionary portfolio management mandate shall be calculated using Time Weighted Rate of Return (“TWRR”) method.

Cash holdings and investments in cash equivalent are considered for calculation of performance.

Performance computed and reported shall be net of all fees and all expenses (including taxes/statutory levies thereon).

Statutory Disclosures:

The performance reported above is not verified by SEBI.

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Despite its reputation as a growth-led economy, value investing has an established place in India's equity markets.